MSNBC Democratic Debate In Pennsylvania Scorecard (October 30, 2007)
October 30, 2007 | Permalink
Debate Performance Ranking…
This is a ranking of the candidates using the criteria of whom based only on the debate, improved their chances for winning the nomination the most. In other words, if all the candidates were completely tied this evening then the debate alone would tip the scales in the following way.
- Joe Biden
- Chris Dodd
- Barack Obama
- John Edwards
- Hillary Clinton
- Bill Richardson
- Dennis Kucinich
This was definitely a lively debate. As expected, Sen. Clinton received strong criticism from her opponents. If you’re interested in our explanations for the rankings, be sure to tune into our next podcast. Congratulations to Sen. Biden for winning another Democratic debate.
Related at 2008Central.net:
- Live Blog Of MSNBC Democratic Debate In Pennsylvania (October 30, 2007)
- MSNBC Democratic Debate In Pennsylvania Time Allotments (October 30, 2007)
Basically I had Biden and Dodd tied. They both made solid points. I think that Dodd made more of them, but what struck me was how the big 3 all said that they all agree with Joe’s stances on several key issues.
I would probably give Edwards the nod over Obama because Obama did go after Hillary just as much but seemed to be stuttering more as the night went on like he was struggling to come up with answers and you can’t do that in a debate.
Once again Joe Biden bitch slapped Rudy Giuliani on national TV, and Giuliani’s response was another one of the weak kneed comeback lines that he is so famous for.
Giuliani is running scared, he is getting thrased by Hillary Clinton in every major national poll, and he gets persoanlly beat up by Joe Biden everytime Biden gets on stage. This is more proof the Giuliani is a lightweight with ZERO foreign policy experience and no views on any topic other then 9/11. Biden was dealing with foreign dictators and America’s enemies while Giuliani was chasing ambulances in NY….that’s the difference between the two.
I wish Joe had gotten more air time,he’s the only one that makes any sense. The others all seem like they’re trying too hard and Joe’s answers just come naturally, you can tell.
Thanks for the comments, we’ll discuss the rankings in depth on the podcast, which I promise will have better sound this week…
Joe,
I soon reach retirement age but I frankly do not wish to receive my Social Security pension, at least through the foreseeable future. However, I will need Medicare coverage immediately. As you rethink the Social Security program, consider that I am not unique but probably one of many Americans willing to sacrifice monetarily for the good of nation. Can Social Security be changed to accommodate our sacrifice?
Dear Joe,
I am a lifelong conservative Republican, but I am thinking of voting Democrat in the next presidential election, so I tuned in the debate Tuesday night to get an idea of the possibilities. I am not a fan of Senator Clinton. I think Barach O”Bama is an idealistic man, but not strong enough to stand against the political pressure of the presidential office. I was very impressed by you and by Senator Dodd. I do not like any of the Republican candidates. If I am to cross over and vote Democrat, it would have to be you, Dodd or Richardson.
I am 69 years old. I do not like all this talk about World War III even being bandied around.
When I have talked to my Republican representatives about more emphasis on global warming , they have countered with the idea that no one knows if it is cyclically caused or manmade. It doesn’t make any difference to me whether man or nature causes it, my house may still blow away or fall down in an ice storm. It seems to me, we must address the issue regardless of what or who is the cause. If it is beginning to threaten mankind, then men must work together to find solutions to help us survive.
I also am unhappy with the Republican stance on alternative fuels. If we had an alternative to oil right now, we would not have problems with the Middle East nor Venezuela. When I have broached the subject of some kind of financial programs to help individuals install alternative electrical sources, I have got no answer. I am 69 years old, still working and yet I do not have enough income at the end of the month to consider even buying a hybrid car, much less installing solar panels. I would consider it if I could obtain either some assistance or a low interest loan to help pay for it.
I am definitely against further involvement in the war in Irag and I am absolutely appalled that any of our leadership is thinking about carrying it over to Iran.
I do not know how I will vote if Mrs. Clinton or Mr. O’Bama become the Democrat candidates. But if you or Mr. Dodd are the candidates, I will definitely crossover, for the first time in my life, and vote for you. Thank you for running.
Sincerely, Sue Henson
Joe is the real deal. Honest, sincere, and genuine statesman. Been watching Joe on Sunday morning news shows for years. Can not wait for a President Biden in 2008.
Very well said, Doug…I agree with you 100%…absolutely, positively!
I’ve been very heartened since the debate which I initially thought was the worst so far since Senator Biden only had a few minutes to speak. And, to add great insult to injury, he wasn’t allowed to comment on Iraq…how obtuse can Brian Williams and Tim Russert actually be! How do they NOT ask Senator Biden to comment on Iraq and get away with it!? I mean…GIMME A BREAK!!!
We, the American People, must take the initiative to get our country back. JOE BIDEN is the man to do it. We must work, grassroots, every single day to further voters’ awareness of Joe. We need Joe’s leadership. Our children need Joe to guide our country back on track. Our country needs Joe. Our WORLD needs Joe’s leadership & experience! The other Democratic candidates said ‘I agree with Joe’ over & over in the debates. Great! So let’s just ALL AGREE WITH JOE and get him ELECTED! (Oh, yes, it’s worth mentioning that I’m a life-time-long, now-recovering Republican).
I am an enthusiastic supporter and contributor to Senator Biden’s campaign, and I truly hope that he gains enough traction to win the nomination.
In each debate, he has demonstrated that he is the best qualified candidate, with Senator Clinton a close second.
Edwards has turned into a rabid attack dog, and Obama meanders through generalities that most often suggest that “the nation needs to have a discussion”. Both are weak, and would lose to any Republican.
While Senator Biden had only 6 minutes to respond to questioners intent on urging an attack of Clinton, he clearly had the best evening.
However, I was very disappointed in his answer to Chris Matthews during the post debate interview. Sentor Biden had raised his hand supporting issuing licenses to illegal aliens (only Dodd opposed). Neither Russert nor Williams followed up on the clear assent of all candidates except Dodd.
In the post debate interview, Matthews shouted his question to Senator Biden: “Senator do you believe that illegal aliens should receive drivers licenses?” Senator Biden meekly said “no,” even though he had supported Spitzer during the debate only a few minutes earlier. He had let himself be intimidated by Matthews.
On the substance of the question, Senator Clinton gave a reasoned and articulate response: that governors have to address real problems in their states; that immigration is not an abstract problem to them, and that Spitzer’s proposal is ONE way to try to identify the illegal aliens in New York State.
It was a direct response to a serious problem, but she was immediately attacked by Edwards and Obama, each of whom had indicated their agreement with the proposal.
Why did Senator Biden join in piling on Clinton for a reasoned analysis under fire? She responded much better than Biden did in answering Matthews’ post-debate rant.
Biden blew me away. Dodd was also very good, but Biden’s command of international affairs is unrivaled, I think. These are dangerous times and I feel most comfortable with Biden. I was undecided until Tuesday. I’m definitely leaning toward Biden now. Several people at work have been saying the same thing. We’re from Davenport and we’re all planning to caucus together.
Both Governor Bill Richardson, and Senator Christopher Dodd are ill informed about the OIL we use! It is not “FOSSIL FUEL”!
And, the knowledge of this has been available for more than 50 years!
Anyone not knowing such easily available information, who makes such an absurd embarassing, blunder for the world to hear, should never be Prresident of the United States!
This year is full of the buzz of the economy, the war and health care. I would like to know the delegates view on Prison Reform and bringing back Federal Parole.