2008Central.net Presidential Election Podcast (10/12/08)
In this podcast we offer a preview of the third and final presidential debate between Obama and Mccain as well as an overview of the state of the campaign. We also discuss our most recent election projection and the polling trends during the last week. Additionally, we criticize both campaigns on their respective weaknesses and offer some unsolicited advice for improvement. And much more…
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Sphere: Related ContentMcCain: “My Fellow Prisoners”
October 10, 2008 | Permalink | Leave a Comment
Also, as Christopher Buckley of all people notes, the promise to balance the budget within one term is preposterous.
Sphere: Related ContentThe Republican Base Is Costing McCain Any Chance of Being Competitive
October 10, 2008 | Permalink | Leave a Comment
Jonathan Martin looked earlier today at the incredible anger, and frankly, mob mentality taking over at GOP rallies. Howard Wolfson gets at the essence of the problem for McCain:
Instead of focusing on Ayers Senator McCain might have chosen to spend a day outlining a comprehensive solution to the mess we are in. But that would require an understanding of the problem and an idea of how to fix it — which John McCain clearly does not have.
Right now the McCain campaign is having a conversation with itself and the Republican base, while the rest of the country — and Barack Obama — is focused on the greatest economic meltdown since the Depression. It’s not a good place for John McCain to be less than a month before the election.
There is clearly not enough people angry about Obama to tip the election to McCain. He needs to persuade indepdents and undecideds - people who are overwhelming concerned about the economy. And yet, his base is so completely unreasonable that he can’t do that. Of course, as Wolfson points out, McCain’s messaging on the economy has also been terrible. But determination, or even a halfway decent economic message combined with attack ads might have a chance of succeeding; going all negative with tenuous if any links to the economy will appeal to the base.
This also gets at a bigger problem with McCain. In earlier days, he’d have no problem educating voters at town halls. Now? He’s just swamped by the anger. In New Hampshire, he was Hercules, sending navigable bodies of water wherever he wanted, Now, McCain is just being dragged under by the undertoe. I can’t help but get the impression that McCain is shellshocked and unable to formulate a response of his own.
See Daily Show video on economy here.
Sphere: Related Content2008Central.net Presidential Election Podcast (10/07/08)
This podcast provides analysis of the second presidential debate between Obama and McCain, which was held at Belmont University in Tennessee.
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Sphere: Related Content2008Central.net Presidential Election Podcast (10/06/08)
October 6, 2008 | Permalink | 2 Comments
This podcast analyzes the latest polling data, McCain Campaign’s aggressive tactics, Obama’s newest attack video on McCain’s association with the Keating 5, a preview of the second presidential debate in Tennessee.
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Sphere: Related Content2008Central.net Presidential Election Podcast (10/02/08)
October 2, 2008 | Permalink | 6 Comments
This podcast offers post vice presidential debate commentary and analysis of the debate between Sarah Palin and Joe Biden.
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Sphere: Related ContentSenate Votes On Financial Bill (AKA Economic Bailout Bill)
Tonight, the U.S. Senate is voting on the financial bill that is intended to address the current economic crisis. As the speeches wrap up, and the voting begins, I just wanted to note a few pieces of information about the bill that pretty much demonstrate just how botched the legislative process really is…
- The legislation that is being voted on tonight is massive - 451 pages, a significant portion of it has almost nothing to do with the economic crisis.
- It includes a tax exemption “for certain wooden arrows designed for use by children.” (Sec. 503)
- An inexplicable provision that treats settlements from the Exxon Valdez spill as though they were engaged in a fishing business. (Sec. 504)
- An increase in the statutory limit on public debt. The new limit would be $11,315,000,000,000 ($11.315 trillion). The previous limit was $9.815 trillion.
There’s more, but you get the point. There’s an awful lot of silly, unrelated stuff that needed to be tossed into this in order to get enough people to support it. You can read the full text of the bill here.
UPDATE: The Senate passed the bill with a vote of 74-25. Obama, Biden, McCain all voted in favor of the bill (as did Hillary Clinton).
Sphere: Related Content2008Central.net Presidential Election Podcast (09/30/08)
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Sphere: Related Content2008Central.net Presidential Election Podcast (09/26/08)
This podcast offers commentary and analysis about the first presidential debate about the economy and foreign policy between Barack Obama and John McCain at the University of Mississippi.
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Sphere: Related ContentFirst Presidential Election Debate Liveblog: From The University of Mississippi in Oxford
September 26, 2008 | Permalink | Leave a Comment
5:15: All times are Central. Deal with it, you coastal elites!
More on the University of Mississippi here. Fun fact: It was used as a hospital during the Civil War for both Union and Confederate soldiers. So there’s some bipartisanship. There’s no truth to the rumor that John McCain was there at that time, however. A must read about the civil rights history of the college is here. There’s no truth to the rumor that Barack Obama was the … uhm, named person in the headline there. Seriously, John McCain’s grandfather is one of the famous alumni of the college.
The moderator tonight is PBS’ Jim Lehrer. This is Lehrer’s record 11th time moderating a presidential debate, and his wiki page describes him as a bus enthusiast. So he’s got that going for him.
The format: two podiums. Sections of the debate will include introductory statements of two minutes, followed by five minutes of debate between the candidates. It’s a really nice format.
5:36: Mississippi is the state where Teddy Roosevelt refused to shoot a captured bear, enraging Stephen Colbert but capturing the heart of a nation. Nowadays, killing a moose is a qualification for national office. How times change!
5:53: Mississippi soda/pop fact: Mississippi is the birthplace of the Barq’s Root Beer. And also apparently the home of some very, very crazy ad wizards.
6:04: Ole Miss is in Oxford, in Lafayette County. In the county, Obama beat Clinton 2,849 to 2,171. John McCain won a virtually uncontested primary in the county with 1,953 votes (Huckabee received about 300 votes and Ron Paul less than 100 votes).
6:48: Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen is so concerned about the financial crisis that she’s talking on the House floor about Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his denunciations of Israel. I understand that Presidents have to have multiple things in their crossfire, but you would think that wouldn’t apply to the House. Especially in the middle of a crisis.
7:04: In the audience: a lot of students and the Washington elite.
7:11: Nate Silver has a good debate preview up.
7:14: Matt Yglesias asks if the debate itself will be in HD. It’s a good question. Angelo believes it will be. Confirmation: here.
7:17: A C-Span history of debates.
7:18: C-Span’s debate hub is awesome.
7:19: The largest airport in Mississippi, in Jackson, was renamed the Jackson-Evers International Airport to honor assassinated NAACP leader Medgar Evers.
7:23: Marc Ambinder’s preview is also worth reading.
7:27:This week in 1963: JFK becomes the first president to sleep overnight in Duluth. Thanks, PBS.
7:29: Listening to C-Span calls before a debate is excruciating. Supporters of either side are just grating.
7:31: Janet Brown, Executive Director of the Commission on Presidential Debates, starts off the speeches that are very unimportant, and meant only to stoke the egos of those who give them.
7:37: Frank Fahrenkopf chastises the crowd to not applaud or make any noise.
7:42: Should I be concerned that there’s been multiple listings of corporate sponsors? Or is that too 3rd party-sh of me?
7:43: THe University lost power because of an accident with an immigration line earlier today.
7:50: Michelle Obama is in the house.
7:51: Jim Lehrer is on the stage. He talks down to people who “volunteered or participated” in the primary debates. Let’s hope Hillary isn’t watching. He talks about needing “absolute concentration” and asks Cindy McCain and Michelle Obama to take names of whoever makes sound.
8:00: And away we go! Tom Brokaw says the “Reagan Democrat” is the voter both are courting. Jim Lehrer says he has not cleared his questions with anyone. Both candidates arive to the only applause of the night.
8:03: First question: Eisenhower talks about economic strength being the basis for military strength. Where do you stand on the economic recovery plan? Obama goes first. Talks about Main Street, and how his proposals protect the taxpayer. His four point plan: oversight, the possibility of getting the money back (equity), executive pay, and help to homeowners. Segues into a criticism of Republican financial policy, including deregulation, and including the phrase “trickle down.” McCain references Kennedy (who has since been released from the hospital, per Politico). McCain is talking to Lehrer, while Obama was addressing the American people. Odd distinction. He talks at length about the bipartisanship in Congress, and mentions accountability, options for loans, and “a number of other essential elements.” He then seems to try to side with House Republicans, who want something wholly different. He ends up with a reference to foreign oil. Obama mentions that “we haven’t seen the language yet” which is head scratching. Of course, Lehrer is referring to a plan that is being negotiated as we speak. I think he’s pressing a bit in the wrong direction. The key is what they think should be done, not really what they think about some abstract plan that no longer exists. Obama addressed that answer to Lehrer. McCain tells a story about Eisenhower and Normandy, and his willingness to resign if D-Day failed. He implies that Chris Cox should resign because he failed - but doesn’t say why. Obama says there must responsibility not just when there is a crisis, and talks about the problems before the crisis erupted last week. Funny moment: Obama refers to McCain saying the fundamentals of the economy are strong, and Lehrer makes him say it directly to McCain, who jokes that he could hear Obama the first time. McCain’s response: “We have fundamental problems in the system.” It’s pretty ridiculous, given his comments about the fundamentals of the economy. He finishes with an ode to the American worker that Lenin could have written. Time spent talking on this: directly even. To the second.
8:14: Second question: what differences to you have on the economy: McCain wants spending under control. Talks about earmarking as a gateway drug. The joke about bear DNA doesn’t get any laugh. He holds up a pen to veto and says “this one is kinda old.” He’s making the old person jokes himself. Yeesh. McCain criticizes Obama for making earmarks. Obama agrees that earmarks are abused, and often by lobbyists. Obama says earmarks cost 18 billion, but McCain is proposing 300 billion dollars worth of tax cuts to the rich. Obama is working overload to relate to the common man. McCain goes on again about the earmarks and the 18 billion dollars, and criticizes them for corrupting people. He mentions Obama’s 800 billion of new spending. Obama talks about his plans: closing corporate “loopholes,” health care spending, etc. Obama again says earmarks alone will not get the middle class “back on track.” McCain talks about the business tax being the second highest in the world, to get more businesses in America. He goes back to earmarks AGAIN, and he’s getting a little silly on the point. He talks about the tax cuts he wants to give everyone. Fact check: earmarks are only 0.63% of the federal budget. Obama talks about his tax cuts, and criticizes McCain for making health care benefits taxable. McCain jumps in, and criticizes Obama for … his vote on the Energy Bill. McCain only wants to talk about earmarks. I’m at a bit of a loss. Obama mentions the tax breaks, and criticizes mcCain for opposing the Energy Bill right now for the position on eliminating tax breaks for oil company.
8:26: Third question: what would you give up to pay for this recovery plan: Obama says it’s hard to say, but some things will have to be delayed. Talks about needing to get energy indepdence in ten years. That’s very, very optimistic. Also mentions health care, and deductibles going up 30%. Also mentions competing globally, specifically in education. Also mentions infrastructure, including roads and the energy grid. A certain viewer near Albany, NY likes the road shout out. McCain talks about needing to cut spending, criticizing Obama for having the most liberal record. McCain wants to end ethanol spending, and better bids for contracts for the military. McCain talks about knowing how to get defense spending under control. Lehrer wants to know what will delayed specifically. Obama talks about postponing parts of his energy plan, and 15 billion lost through Medicare. Mentions working with Tom Coburn setting up “Google for Government.” McCain wants a spending freeze on everything but Defense, Veterans, and “other important” areas. Obama says you need a scalpel, not a hatchet, mentioning the 79 billion dollar surplus of the Iraqi government. McCain wants 45 nuclear power plants, and gives an awkward climate change shout out to Sen. Clinton. Lehrer doesn’t like these answers, and tries again. Obama segues into a discussion about values, and talks about corporate tax cuts versus health care. McCain does not want health care handed to the federal government, and gives a variation on the Harry and Louise schtick. McCain goes back to spending, and talks about owing China $500 billion. That’s true, but not really the root of the problem as he implies. Obama refers to the “orgy of spending” under Bush and criticizes McCain for voting for Bush’s budgets.
8:38: What are the lessons of Iraq? McCain: You caannot have a failed strategy that causes you to lose. A little broad to me. Bad strategy is as old as warfare itself. McCain hugs the surge as much as he possibly could. Talks about “winning” in Iraq and “coming home with victory and honor.” This is about 100 degrees difference away from what Petraeus describes. HD update: Apparently they both look weird in HD. Obama talks about opposing the war from the start, and tells the same story about taking an unpopular position as McCain. Obama talks about being distracted from Afghanistan and Al Qaeda being resurgent. McCain talks about Obama saying that the surge failed, not going to Iraq, and not holding hearings on his subcommittee. Obama looks amused, and restates Biden saying that those things are held at full committee. Obama gives his own McCain quotes, including greeted as liberators and history between Shia and Sunni, leading it into a question of judgment. McCain says Obama does not understand the difference between a tactic and a strategy. McCain says Obama refuses to believe we are winning. He describes a strategy that sounds a whole lot like a tactic. It’s a strange distinction. McCain talks about Obama not funding the troops. Obama knocks it down quite easily, actually, saying that McCain and him both voted against bills for other reasons, and talks about at length about Afghanistan. McCain talks more about the surge and Petraeus, and says he knew the surge would succeed this much.
8:50: Should more troops be sent to Afghanistan? Obama: Send more troops ASAP, as per the commanders in the ground. Obama goes back to Afghanistan and says it cannot be separated. No mention of Pakistan thus far, except implicitly mentioning Al Qaeda “crossing the border.” Finally mentions Pakistan. Three points: More troops, deal with the poppy trade, and dealing with Pakistan. McCain talks about the Russians leaving and the rise of Al Qaeda and the Taliban. McCain says he is not prepared to cut off aid to Pakistan, and criticizes Obama for launching strikes, or rather, for saying it out loud - effectively admitting he would do the same thing but not say it out loud. He talks about Waziristan. McCain wants the Iraq strategy. But Iraq is urban warfare; Waziristan is remotte tribes. Building walls is pointless when there’s already mountains in between people. a WSJ article a long while ago made this point. (A GOP one I linked to before). Obama says it’s about having intelligence regarding Al Qaeda, and taking them out, and that McCain has made comments regarding extinghuishing AL Qaeda and singing songs about bombing Iran. Obama says that Musharraf was coddled and the policy was anti-democratic. McCain says there was a failed state when Musharraf came to power. McCain tries to defend his temperament, and defends himself by voting against troops going to Lebanon; supporting the Gulf War and going into Bosnia and Kosovo; he wanted the troops in Somalia to apparently do more “peace making force.” But the criticism was regarding his words, both originally from McCain and rebuttal from Obama. This is just a tangent regarding his record. He says if Iraq does not succeed, then lives are wasted; the logical implication is that the deaths in Vietnam and Somalia were in vain. Obama says no soldiers die in vain, and all service should be honored, but the question is regarding how to keep America safe. He criticizes McCain for saying America could “muddle through” Afghanistan. McCain criticizes Obama for not going to Afghanistan and not holding hearings again.
Discipline: McCain has oddly times smiles, as usual, but is otherwise OK. Obama seems pretty OK. No sighs so far. Lehrer says time is even.
8:50: What is the threat from Iran? McCain says there they propose an existential threat to Israel, and that there can never again be a Holocaust. McCain says a League of Democracies could take effective sanctions, mentioning the Germans, French, and British. He also mentions Iran infiltrating Iraq. Obama says the Republican Guard is a terrorist organization (and says he always said that) and said that the war in Iraq has strengthened Iran’s hand. Agrees that a nuclear Iran cannot be tolerated, both for Israel and to prevent an arms race in the Middle East. Obama says cooperation from states like Russia and China will be needed for sanctions to be effective. He talks about diplomacy. He says that efforts at isolation only accelerate efforts to get nuclear weapons. McCain talks about Ahmadinejad wanting to wipe Israel out, and not wanting to give him a propaganda platform. McCain talks about needing preconditions being necessary, citing Reagan and Nixon. Obama says even Kissinger wants America to meet with Iran. He cites Bush sending Bill Burns to talks with Iran, and admitting it may not work. Obama says that after cutting off talks with North Korea, nuclear work was quadrupled, and nuclear secrets were sent to Syria, and through talks progress was made, even if it is on shaky ground. He even mentions McCain not wanting to meet with the President of Spain. McCain says he will not set a visitor’s schedule. McCain says that without precondition, meeting with Ahmadinejad legitimizes comments about Israel. Obama pushes back on Israel, but McCain interrupts, and makes a joke about Obama not denying the words of Ahmadinejad.
9:16: Russia! What do you do, what -DO- you do? Obama says the relationship needs to be reevaluated, but that the actions in Georgia were unwarrented, and that the six point peace plan needs to be implemented. Talks abot needing to be supportive of fledging democracies, and expanding NATO to countries like Georgia. Also talks about expanding cooperation, specifically with loose nukes. McCain tries to hammer home that Obama doesn’t understand foreign relations, saying Obama’s first statement only called for restraint on both sides. McCain says he looked into Putin’s eyes and saw KGB. Not sure about that one. Talks about concern over resurgence of the Russian Empire. Says that Russia is in violation of the cease fire agreement. Obama tries to give a better framing of his position on Georgia, but widely agrees with McCain. Mentions the Georgian economy. He talks about how he warned about Russian peacekeepers in Georgia in April, but nothing was done. Obama says that an energy strategy is necessary to deal with not only Russia but also Venezuela and Iran. Mentions energy, including nuclear, wind, and clean coal. Talks about McCain voting against renewable energy. McCain also talks about Nunn-Lugar. Obama says that he’s just for storing nuclear waste carefully. He wants to make another point, but McCain talks over him and I can’t tell what either said.
9:25: What is the likelihood of another 9/11? McCain says it is much less than it was on 9/12. He mentions that he and Lieberman wanted to start the 9/11 Commission. He seems to be making the Richardson approach: that he personally knows a lot of things and can get things done because he knows how to do it. It’s not what he did in the primary. Obama says America is safer in some ways. He talks about chemical sites, ports, and transit. He circle back to nuclear proliferation and says it is the biggest threat to the United States. Says missile defense is necessary, but it is not more important than nuclear waste. Says Al Qaeda is operating in 60 countries, and the root cause is in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Says America’s standing in the world has been damaged, and work is needed to restore the standing as a city on a hill. McCain cites Reagan and missile defense, for some reason. He goes back to Obama “not understanding” and says if there is failure in Iraq, Al Qaeda will have a base there. Obama goes back to McCain and Bush focusing on Iraq, while Bin Laden is still out there, while seguing to Chin being involved around the world everywhere where America is not, and the ability to project power of America is hurt. Segues into a discussion of veterans, and that a broader strategic vision is necessary. McCain says that Obama does not have the experience of knowledge necessary to be president. He compares Obama’s stubbornness to that of Bush, and says Obama not admitting the surge succeeded is really bad. Obama mentions his father coming from Kenya, and wanting to come to America because of the standing of America in the world, and that this idea is important, and investing ni how ordinary people live out their dreams is important. McCain one ups that by talking about coming home from prison and normalizing relations with Vietnam.
That ends the debate. I’m going to ponder grades, but Lehrer gets an easy A. Well done.
Sphere: Related ContentVIDEO: Sarah Palin Interview With Katie Couric (UPDATED)
September 26, 2008 | Permalink | 4 Comments
One of the downsides of these interviews is that they release them in tiny pieces, so it ends up taking way too much energy to find the actual full interview (if you are anything like me and get easily frustrated with overly complicated websites). Anyway, for your viewing pleasure, the full interview of Sarah Palin by CBS’s Katie Couric…
[UPDATE 9/30/08] - Part 1 - Sarah Palin’s second interview with Katie Couric is below..
Part 1:
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Part 1 (September 30, 2008)
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Sphere: Related ContentTurning Point: Dems Can Go In For The Kill Now
September 26, 2008 | Permalink | Leave a Comment
2008Central.net Presidential Election Podcast (09/24/08)
This podcast discusses the proposed legislation to bailout Wall Street, McCain suspending his campaign to return to Washington and his call to postpone this Friday’s debate, a debate preview and a discussion of foreign policy issues (both obvious and not so obvious), and more…
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Sphere: Related ContentCNN’s Algorithms Demonstrate Americans And Press Just Don’t Care?
Today, Lehman filed for the biggest bankruptcy in history ($613 Billion), new details about Cheney’s role as vp emerged, Merril Lynch was bought out by Bank Of America, fears about Washington Mutual grow, AIG - one of the world’s largest insurance companies - struggles to to stave off failure…
I could go on, but I won’t. Look at the above list, think about some other things going on in the world at this moment, and now take a look at CNN’s front page from today:
Yup, that’s right America. Don’t worry about anything. The big story today is that OJ is giving a thumbs up! Since everything is fine, why don’t you take a look at one of their top stories instead; perhaps “Celebrity Worship: Good for your health?” would be a wise choice?
Just for comparison, I took at look at CNN’s Global Edition. Not surprisingly, their front page doesn’t treat their readers as though they belong at the kid’s table on Thanksgiving:
Maybe it’s time for news outlets to focus on news?
Sphere: Related ContentFYI: Earmarks Are A Red Herring
September 9, 2008 | Permalink | 3 Comments
The McCain Campaign has consistently discussed the issue of earmarks throughout this entire campaign. Lately, the Obama campaign has been engaging them in this arena with respect to Sarah Palin and the “Bridge To Nowhere.” Substantively, the McCain Campaign is overstating the case on earmarks; strategically, it is very foolish for the Obama Campaign to engage them on this issue specifically….
Lately the McCain Campaign has been ramping up the rhetoric against earmarks. Foolishly (although unsurprisingly) the press is covering McCain’s statements on the subject without educating listeners/readers. Earmarks comprised approximately 0.63% of the entire Federal Budget in 2008 ($2.9 trillion budget, 18.3 billion in earmarks). Indeed, wasteful spending is certainly a problem. And, I am not suggesting that all earmarks are worth defending. Rather, I am pointing out that McCain’s talk on earmarks sounds great and is effective from a political perspective, but in terms of governance it will have little real impact on the federal deficit. Certainly, it’s worth discussing in a campaign, but the amount of attention the McCain campaign is giving such a minor issue in the grand scheme of things belies their intention - to talk about something that sounds good for them. If the McCain Campaign were discussing some of his other economic proposals to the same degree, the political benefits would be greatly reduced.
Is it possible for someone in the mainstream media to call out McCain on this subject? Or, are they just going to keep rambling about the closeness of the polls?
Sphere: Related ContentRNC Live Blog - Day 3: Including Gov. Sarah Palin, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney
And we’re off…
[All times are Central]
7:56: Michael Steele takes the stage (no, he’s not the guy that Pierce Brosnon played, he’s the former Lt. Governor of Maryland). He announces that they are not gathering tonight as Republicans, but as Americans. It’s statements like this that really frustrate me about politics. This is a party convention, for the purpose of selecting a party nominee. This is not an event that’s intended to be inclusive of all Americans, rather, it’s for the Republicans, just like the Democratic Convention was for the Democrats. Just saying…
8:00: Talks about the importance of putting country first. Then, he talks about education vouchers. Huh? Now, he talks about less taxes and less dependency on foreign oil by promoting oil and gas production at home. He says what is likely the awkward line of the line, not so much for the statement itself but the tone: “Let me make this clear, drill baby, drill.” The crowd begins to chant “drill baby, drill.”
8:03: He concludes by saying that in order to put country first, then McCain and Palin need to be elected. Hmm, it was my understanding that tonight wasn’t about Republicans. I guess that’s not the case anymore?
8:06: Mitt Romney takes the stage.
8:07: He says that in order to bring change to Washington, Washington is going to have to stop looking to northeast elites like the New York Times editorial board and TV anchors, and instead, needs to look west to McCain and Palin.
8:08: Romney says that Washington is currently liberal and in order to bring a real change, it is necessary to elect a conservative.
8:11: Mentions the need to fight pornography in schools. I’m not currently aware that this is a major problem. Oh well.
8:13: Mitt Romney’s suggestion for energy conservation: a cute joke about keeping Al Gore’s private jet on the ground.
8:16: Says, “Just like you, there was never a day when I was not proud to be an American.” Also says that he believes by the providence of god that the GOP will succeed in the November and that McCain will be elected.
8:19: Refrain from the song currently playing, “If you’re going to hell, keep on going.” I’m honestly confused. Why exactly would one want to rush to hell?
8:26: Mike Huckabee takes the stage.
8:27: Thanks the “elite media” for unifying the Republican Party. Then proceeds to attack the press coverage the past few days.
8:30: So far, Huckabee’s speech is pretty good. It’s empathic about economic issues and ties it into his personal background (which was impoverished).
8:34: Huckabee says that Palin received more votes runing for the Mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden received during this run for president. This is patently false (I just fact checked it myself).
9:01: Okay, it’s Rudy time…
9:03: Tells undecided votes to imagine that they are hiring someone to do a very important job. They have two applications to choose from, no names or party affiliations. Both applicants are patriotic with intersting backgrounds. On the one hand, you have one man that dedicated himself to service of the United States and has passed very test that life through at him. “On the other hand, you have a resume from a gifted man with an Ivy League education, who worked as a community organizer.” (The crowd erupts in laughter at that point). Then proceeds to hit Obama on voting present 136 times while he was a state senator. Follows up by attacking his lack of experience. Says that this is no time for on the job training. I’m confused as to how the GOP is willing to make this argument given Sarah Palin’s lack of experience.
9:15: Says that McCain will keep us on offense against terorism.
9:16: Says that Democrats don’t like to say the word “Islamic terrorism” because they are afraid - afraid of insulting someone. Adds that when you say it, you are only insulting the terrorists. Look, we’re fair, we’re nonpartisan. This is just an incredibly dumb statement that really has no bearing on the election and has an incredibly weak factual foundation.
9:19: Criticized Obama for not taking public finacing. Then says that Obama was against wire tapping before he voted against it. *sigh* At the risk of sounding like some Obama apologist, which I definitely am not (see my scathing critique of Obama over his FISA vote), but Giuliani’s line here about wire tapping is yet again completely misleading. The issue wasn’t about wiretapping, it was about immunity for telecom companies. Look, either Giuliani doesn’t understand this or he’s intentionally deceiving listeners. And since it’s Giuliani, and he’s a tough New Yorker and feels the need to use a little New Yawk speak, I’ll break this down: Either, Giuliani is dumb and doesn’t understand what the FISA issue was or he’s flat out lying.
9:30: Sarah Palin takes the stage…
9:35: Mentions her son’s upcoming departure for Iraq on 9/11.
9:40: She’s still giving shout outs to family members.
9:42: “What’s the difference between a hockey mom and a bull? Lipstick.”
9:43: Just noticed that Pali is wearing a flag pin on her collar, but not an American flag pin … and Israeli flag pin. Interesting…
9:57: Attacks Obama for being worried that someone won’t read “terrorists who are plotting catostrophic attacks on America” their rights.
9:58: Says that Obama supports plan to raise taxes across the board. And will increase the tax burden on Americans by hundreds of billions of dollars.
10:04: Says that the presidency is not a venue for personal discovery. I’m still not sure how she is able to sincerely criticize Obama on the experience issue given her own shortcomings in the department. It’s truly confusing for me.
Sphere: Related ContentAUDIO: Round Table Discussion With 08 Blogger Network Members…
Following an organizational discussion, some 08 Blogger Network members participated in a round table discussion about the state of the presidential election. Some of the topics discussed were Obama’s FISA vote, McCain’s issues with his base and the political consequences, noteworthy takeaways and much more. Since this discussion took place after an organizational meeting, introductions are not included on the recording. The participating bloggers were iPol, potus2008election, me (2008central.net) and Divided We Stand, United We Fall.
It was a very interesting conversation, take a listen…
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Sphere: Related ContentFrom The You’re Not Helping Department: Phill Gramm Thinks Economic Problems Are “Mental,” Also Thinks We’re A Nation Of “Whiners”
July 10, 2008 | Permalink | 2 Comments
John McCain’s top economic adviser, Phil Gramm really isn’t doing the campaign any favors with his recent Washington Times interview.
Gramm is convinced that the economy is not as bad as one would gather from reading the news, and he’s certainly going to say so. Gramm believes that the economic problems are “mental,” saying:
“You’ve heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession,” he said, noting that growth has held up at about 1 percent despite all the publicity over losing jobs to India, China, illegal immigration, housing and credit problems and record oil prices. “We may have a recession; we haven’t had one yet.”
Even if this were true, it’s usually not a good idea to talk about serious economic problems felt by many Americans as though they were imagined. It’s just not going to help you any in an election year.
Just in case the hole he dug wasn’t big enough, he went on:
“We have sort of become a nation of whiners,” he said. “You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline” despite a major export boom that is the primary reason that growth continues in the economy, he said.
Needless to say, he’s just adding insult to injury with that kind of rhetoric. I don’t even need to expound on it, the political consequences are self evident. Somewhat confusingly, Gramm’s statements also directly contradict McCain’s statement that we are in a recession from just two days ago. Speaking with Pittsburgh Tribune staff, McCain was asked whether we’re in a recession (h/t Thinkprogress):
Trib: Are we in a recession now in your opinion?
McCain: Of course, I believe that we’re in a recession, but the important thing, you know, people sit around the kitchen table at night saying how are we going to make the mortgage payment? They’re not saying, hey, you think we’re in a recession? Or just, this is an economic dip, you know, what do you think we’re - they’re saying how are we going to make our payment this month? How are we going to stay in our home? So and so just lost his job. So that really is — and I don’t mean to be disrespectful of your question, I apologize if I was. But I think, yeah, I’d say we’re, certainly in the minds of millions and millions of Americans, we are in a quote recession.
I guess Gramm didn’t get the memo? His most recent flap isn’t the only liability he presents for the campaign. Gramm has received a bit of heat over his connection to the subprime mortgage crisis.
The Politico reported back in March that Gramm:
led the charge in 1999 to repeal a Depression-era banking regulation law that Democrat Barack Obama claimed on Thursday contributed significantly to today’s economic turmoil.
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Gramm’s role in the swift and dramatic recent restructuring of the nation’s investment houses and practices didn’t stop there.A year after the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act repealed the old regulations, Swiss Bank UBS gobbled up brokerage house Paine Weber. Two years later, Gramm settled in as a vice chairman of UBS’s new investment banking arm.
Later, he became a major player in its government affairs operation.
During those years, the mortgage industry pressed Congress to roll back strong state rules that sought to stem the rise of predatory tactics used by lenders and brokers to place homeowners in high-cost mortgages.
More recently, federal records show that Gramm “was being paid by a Swiss bank to lobby Congress about the U.S. mortgage crisis at the same time he was advising McCain about his economic policy.”
In short: Gramm is more trouble than he’s worth for the McCain campaign. I recognize the need for the campaign to keep him, given his close ties to certain constituencies, but they either need to get him under control or cut him loose from the campaign. He’s a liability that’s just ripe for criticism. And worse, his connection to the McCain campaign runs the risk of tarnishing McCain’s brand.
The Obama campaign issued a response to Gramm’s interview, saying:
Sphere: Related Content“One of Senator McCain’s top economic advisors may think that when people are struggling with lost jobs, stagnant wages, and the rising costs of everything from gas to groceries, it’s merely a ‘mental recession’. And Senator McCain may think it’s sufficient to offer energy proposals that he admits will have mainly ‘psychological’ benefits. But the American people know that our economic problems aren’t just in their heads. They don’t need psychological relief – they need real relief – and that’s what Barack Obama will provide as President,” said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.




